#ody deserves so much better

[leynaeithnea]

.... sighs and goes to read bc I, too, have no self restraint and Odysseus still deserves to not suffer alone since HIS WHOLE CREW BETRAYS HIM HERE

But i still blame anniflamma (and whoever made that comment first)

KIDS DONT READ THAT, PLEASE DONT

Tagging stuff on ao3 feels like the thing christians do alone with the priest... Yes father I put Odysseus on a leash... Again... Yes he's on his knees... Yes, again...

I REGRET NOTHING AND THE ONLY REASON I KNOW SHAME IS, IS THE VOCABULARY

[sleeping-at-sea]

I already knew the things Calypso did to Odysseus but honestly just listening to Love In Paradise over and over really just finally had it click and I realize how much projection I've done onto Odysseus and how most of it is honestly true and could most likely be true

[codenamethebird]

God I have so much to say about Melinoe's characterization, and the fasinating implications about her future arc/the overarching plot of hades 2. I want to make a larger think piece with pictures but for the moment I'm just going to focus on this one specific thread.

In the wake of the Prometheus reveal, she has a slew of convos about his motivations for siding with Chronos, and the gods basically all go: this is his vengeance for us punishing him a tad cruelly. And Nemesis is like, yeah the gods 100% deserve it. But Meli's responds that he must have more motivation than just vengeance, it can't just be that. But when Prometheus explicitly goes, 'I'm doing this because the gods are horrible to humanity and I love humans,' she basically goes, no he must be lying. That motivation is both too pure, but also humans kind of suck why would you care about them?

Mel's humanity hot takes deserve it's own essay (Ms I think Humans should have never gotten fire and are better when they are dead), and I just want to focus on the former for now. She can not comprehend that Prometheus is fighting the gods for noble reasons. It just does not make sense to her. Mel's world is so black and white. She doesn't understand the nuance of the situation, and the thought that the gods might be actually in the wrong doesn't even get close to crossing her mind.

It's a fascinating (and horrifying) result of her upbringing. Of the constant state of war and the very convenient big bad that is Chronos, the evil monster who stole her family. If she accepts that his side isn't completely evil, that they might even be right in some (even many) respects, she would have to grapple with her whole life. Everything she believes would be thrown into question, the literal thing she was training her whole life for.

She can't have Prometheus fighting for a noble cause, because he fights for Chronos whose the Bad Guy tm. But he also can't be fighting for something as simple as vengeance, because that would also mean she would need to really think about what he's angry about. If the punishment was truly so unnecessary cruel.

When talking to Odysseus about Prometheus, when Ody's saying how much he respected him for stealing the fire despite knowing the consequences, Mel says that it was the price to be paid for breaking Olympus's decree. To her, Olympus's rules are sacred and ultimately good. Unquestionably. Prometheus broke the rules with intent, so to her, why would he be so angry at the consequences? Especially if he knew because of his power they were going to happen.

So he must have another reason, some secret machiavellian plan that drives him. Except as I already said, it brings her right back to him doing it for humanity, which she also can't accept. Because that would be admiting that the gods did something wrong to humans. She twists herself into knots to justify her worldview, and it's fascinating! She's so messy I adore her.

Please Supergiant please the final surface boss has to be a human pleeeaaasse (preferably a living one). Or at least have one (or more) show up in some other capacity. Mel needs to come face to face with the other side and have it utterly destroy her worldview.

And/or have (Pan)Dora betray her for Prometheus, that would also be very fun haha.

[luveline]

what about a grumpy!reader / Eddie + roan. Reader is trying so hard not to let work things get to her but she ends up being a bit grumpy at home, that's when Eddie and our favorite girl Roan intervene.

Maybe. Just a thought. I just love them (and you) so much ❤️

thank you!! i love you <3 eddie and roan —your small family tries to cheer you up after a bad day. fem!reader, 1.4k

"It's a new one called the macarena," Eddie says, his hands around Roan's wrists guiding her arms into the right positions. "Macarena by maca-Roanie."

She's dancing on his thighs. You have no idea how he can cope with it. While Roan isn't a heavy girl, whenever she does it to you it makes you squirm. 

Eddie hums the song and poses Roan's arms, across her abdomen and then hands on her hips. "Hey, maca-Roanie," he sings, making her shake her hips in time with the song, bodily turning her to the left.  

She giggles at the suddenness of it, and her eyes light up with happiness when she sees you're back from the bathroom. 

"Dance with us!" she pleads, laughing more as Eddie messes up the move and quickly corrects her arms. 

"Maybe in a minute," you say, as gently as you can manage despite your foul mood. Neither of them deserve to feel shitty just because you do. 

"Now," she whines, her foot slipping off of Eddie's thigh. She runs with the momentum to the end of the couch, her hands grabbing for you. "Please! Dad will sing the song again." 

"Sorry, Ro," you say, giving her shoulder a quick rub. 

You walk over to the TV to turn down the volume a touch before collapsing with a puff into the fat armchair. Relief courses through you as you shield your eyes from the light. 

"Is she okay?" Roan whispers. 

Eddie must pull her or yank her toward him, if her little yelp and subsequent laughter is anything to go off of. "She's okay, mini me. Today's been really long, that's all."

"It feels as long as yesterday." 

"That's the problem. Come on, let's go make a cup of hot cocoa, okay? I'll show you how to do the dance again."

You're glad that they leave, though that soon melds to a bone deep guilt, kind to make you wanna get up and put on a smile and learn Eddie's new dance. You try to force yourself up. 

You sink deeper into the armchair. 

"Can I give her a hug?" Roan asks in the kitchen. She must think you can't hear her far away. 

"I'm sure she'd love that, but let's give her ten minutes, okay?" 

"Is she mad with me?" 

"No," Eddie says fondly. "She's definitely not mad at you. Just tired, babe."

"Will you toast my marshmalloweds with the flamethrower?" 

"Blowtorch," he corrects. You hear a drawer opening, a click, and Roan's impressed Woah.

I'm such a fucking dick, you think, curling into a ball. My poor loves. 

You sizzle in your bad mood, folding in on yourself as tightly as you can. They don't deserve to feel the cloud hanging over your head. Hopefully it'll blow over soon, and luckily they don't seem to mind. Eddie knows better than to think how you feel has something to do with him, or Ro, or that you'd ever take it out on them. 

You don't want work to make them feel shitty too. 

The kettle whines on the stove. You used to make cocoa in the microwave until Eddie found out about superheated water and said it was too dangerous. You can see him in your head pouring the hot water into their matching mugs, Garfield and Odie, Roan's very favourites donated from the Great Munson Mug Collection when she was a baby. Your heart hurts thinking about it 'cos usually you're standing there at the counter listening to her tell you how much she loves Odie the puppy. Eddie used to cut the Garfield strips out of every newspaper and save them in a plastic binder for her until she slowly lost interest, but the love is still there. The plastic binder is proof, tucked up on your bookshelf next to your photo albums and Eddie's records. 

"Sure you got it?" 

"Yes, daddy, I have it. Thank you for asking me." 

"Are you kidding? You're so welcome. Please don't burn your fingers." 

"I have the handle. You're doing that thing Y/N says you do with over drotectivity." 

"Over drotectivity, huh." 

"You're worrying about things more than normal dads worry and it's gonna give you chives." 

"Sweetheart." Eddie snorts, their footsteps approaching the living room. "It's called over protectiveness, and she thinks it gives me hives, not chives. Which it doesn't! I got hives one time and it was from that discount laundry detergent." 

"When Y/N put ointment on your back and said you felt like a rattlesnake!" 

You peek up from the depressed leather of the armchair your face is smushed in. Roan crosses the room with your favourite mug in her small hand, the weight of it straining her wrist. Cocoa sloshes over the side and a marshmallow rides the wave down onto the hardwood. 

"Don't slip," you say softly. 

"Won't slip," she says, grinning. Her smile is all Eddie like a master copy. "I made you cocoa in the best cup with just pink marshmalloweds 'cos the pink ones are for love." 

"What are the white ones for?" you ask.

You take the mug from her before she can burn herself. Eddie presses down on her shoulder as he sits on the floor in front of your armchair, wielding two mugs in one hand precariously. He swoops Roan into his lap and smiles at you from over her neatly coiled curls. "White ones are for making you taller." 

Roan points at her mug emphatically. "I got lots of white. I wanna sit in the front seat of the car." 

"That's a good reason," you say, slouched but not entirely collapsed in your chair, wondering why they've sat themselves at your feet and already knowing the answer. "Thank you for cocoa, Roro. I'm sorry I didn't dance with you earlier." 

Roan shrugs and leans back into Eddie's chest. He narrowly avoids scalding her, slurping a sip from the rim of his mug rather than have it pour down the side to splash her pyjama-clad shoulder. 

"That's OK. I didn't want to play Wombats with you last night and you still hugged me after teeth." 

She can be such a peculiar kid. Her vocabulary keeps growing in an explosion of mispronounciation and wrong definitions, as well as these unexpected shorthands; teeth means brushing her teeth. She'd brushed her teeth and dragged you to her room, imploring you to climb into bed with her for a half hour which you happily spent stroking her hair from her forehead and exchanging sleepy conversation. 

"Honestly, I didn't even think about Wombats. I just wanted to spend time with you," you say. 

Roan's little chin dips up and down as she nods, her hair bouncing against her cheeks. "Exactly! We don't have to dance. We can just sit down all night." 

"I like sitting down," Eddie adds. 

You lick your lips. They're too good for you, sometimes.

"Thank you, guys," you say, taking a sip of cocoa. 

Roan preens. Eddie puts his cocoa on the floor and his hand on your arm, the gap between you feeling smaller and smaller by the second, your bad mood at a low simmer rather than the roaring boil it had been. The ring on his pinky finger is distinct as his loving hand keeps you company, smothering the heat. 

They chat to one another and don't mind when you have nothing to say. All the sugar and love-flavoured marshmallows cheer you up some, enough to put down your empty mug and want a hug. 

"Come here?" you ask, laying back to make room. 

Roan makes a sound that can only be described as a rabid giggle and leaps onto the cushions. Eddie isn't far behind her, mugs forgotten and nearly kneed over as he encapsulates the two of you in his arms. 

"I'll be less grumpy tomorrow," you promise bashfully. 

"You're kinda cute when you're grumpy," Eddie says, indifferent. His smile curls against your shoulder. "Don't force it." 

"I like happy you and sad you," Roan says. 

You smile softly, tucking a silken curl of hair behind her ear. "I'm not sad," you promise, looking her in the eye and meaning every word, "I can't be sad for long with you and dad around." 

[vyunok-obyknovenniy]

(From Fagles' translation) Book 17 Stranger at the Gates <...> Now, as they talked on, a dog that lay there lifted up his muzzle, pricked his ears … It was Argos, long-enduring Odysseus’ dog he trained as a puppy once, but little joy he got since all too soon he shipped to sacred Troy. In the old days young hunters loved to set him coursing after the wild goats and deer and hares. But now with his master gone he lay there, castaway, on piles of dung from mules and cattle, heaps collecting out before the gates till Odysseus’ serving-men could cart it off to manure the king’s estates. Infested with ticks, half-dead from neglect, here lay the hound, old Argos. But the moment he sensed Odysseus standing by he thumped his tail, nuzzling low, and his ears dropped, though he had no strength to drag himself an inch toward his master. Odysseus glanced to the side and flicked away a tear, hiding it from Eumaeus, diverting his friend in a hasty, offhand way: “Strange, Eumaeus, look, a dog like this, lying here on a dung-hill … what handsome lines! But I can’t say for sure if he had the running speed to match his looks or he was only the sort that gentry spoil at table, show-dogs masters pamper for their points.”

You told the stranger, Eumaeus, loyal swineherd, “Here—it’s all too true—here’s the dog of a man who died in foreign parts. But if he had now the form and flair he had in his glory days— as Odysseus left him, sailing off to Troy— you’d be amazed to see such speed, such strength. No quarry he chased in the deepest, darkest woods could ever slip this hound. A champion tracker too! Ah, but he’s run out of luck now, poor fellow … his master’s dead and gone, so far from home, and the heartless women tend him not at all. Slaves, with their lords no longer there to crack the whip, lose all zest to perform their duties well. Zeus, the Old Thunderer, robs a man of half his virtue the day the yoke clamps down around his neck.” With that he entered the well-constructed palace, strode through the halls and joined the proud suitors. But the dark shadow of death closed down on Argos’ eyes the instant he saw Odysseus, twenty years away. <...>

one last job

[glacierruler]

Eurylochus Analysis

@nandysparadox

First things first, it is important to note that despite how I talk about him, Eurylochus is not just a sopping wet cat of a man. He also can kill you. He didn't die at war for a reason. (RIP Eury, you deserved a better captain).

I will be reblogging this by saga release, mainly because I'm a bit scared I'll break the max tumblr post length haha.

The Troy Saga

The Horse and the Infant

We learn that the soldiers in the horse are like brothers as Ody opens up with: "Alright my brothers listen closely..."

They've also been at war for 10 years, seeing their comrades die. While this isn't exactly Eury content yet it's important to note because Eurylochus has been at war, he's seen his friends die, he's seen tragedies and terrors. This shapes his actions. "Ten years of war they killed us slowly, but now we'll be the ones who slay..."

I will come back to these lines in the future but they are so important to me actually "Do what I say and you'll see them again." "Yes Sir!"

We learn pretty early on that Odysseus is living and fighting for his family. And in the beginning it definitely seems like he's trying to get the crew home. But his priority is his family. Eury's is the crew. Will get to this in a bit.

Just A Man:

Really this is just a precursor to everything that happens. But uh. I felt like I should still include it in this for some reason. Might come back to edit this portion later

Full Speed Ahead

Finally! I get to talk about Eurylochus! First thing to note, he is echoed by the crew, showing that he's closer to them than the captain is. Odysseus is only added onto by the crew, mind you, he's not copied by the crew until later in the song. Also, it's the crew that introduces Eurylochus, and possible the only time the crew introduces someone. "Eurylochus." "600 men." "600 men."

Odysseus may give orders, but the crew is only loyal to him so long as Eurylochus is. And Eury is oh, so loyal, because Odysseus cares about them. He's not just ordering them around, he's trying to keep them alive. The crew is anxious for Odysseus's return, because Eurylochus is.

Open Arms

This feels really similar to Just A Man to me. Although it does serve to show that Polites is closer to his captain than most of the crew.

Warrior of the Mind

Again very similar to Open Arms and Just A Man. We're learning more about Odysseus here than Eurylochus. Which is fine, Ody's the main character. But it does mean there's not much to put here dhdh

Troy Saga Conclusion:

From the Troy Saga we know that Eurylochus is the voice of the crew and is trusted by them. While we could currently say that they trust him more than Ody based on the clues here, but I think that becomes really obvious in later sagas.

I will be back tomorrow to add the Cyclops Saga analysis to this :3

[leynaeithnea]

I didnt get an ask for this BUT WE'RE BACK

my Wisdom saga reaction/analysis!!!!!

26. Legendary

TELEMACHUS MY BOYYYY

THE MELODY AT THE BEGINNING OF LEGENDARY IS SO COOL

the instruments aaah, lowkey obssessed

"its jus tme myself and i" perimedes would like u

"living in this world you left behind".........this song makes oyu think so much about what life has been in Ithica in those years since Odysseus had to leave, he was loved, he is *King*, AH

"dreaming of all these monster, that ill never to get to fight" better this way, u dont wanna end up like your daddy

"but boy i wish i could so i could bring the world some light" BABY BOY

"Cause I'm stuck with your stories, but no clue who you are And no idea if you're dead or just too far" his mother wouldve told him so many stories :aniTears:

"Somebody tell me, come and give me a sign if I fight those monsters, is it you I'll find?" PLS HE jusT WANTS TO FIND HIS DAD GIVE THIS MAN HIS FATHER

"If so, then give me sirens and a cyclops Give me giants and a hydra" hes just naming every monster he can think of of the myths he grew up with

"I know life and fate are scary but I wanna be legendary" U GO BOY; I LOVE YOU, also such a mood

"I'll fight the harpies and chimeras, the Minotaur, even Cerberus I know life and fate are scary but I wanna be l-l-l-l-legendary"....yea same like the two parts before, any monster he can think of, he gotta be one of us kids who read a lot

THEN The droppp in his voice, HE SOUNDS SO SCARED

"There are strangers in our halls" That must be TERRIFYING, just imagine that, dozens of men in your home just prying on your mother and youre too young to do anything rly

"Trying to win the heart of my mom, but she is standing tall" THAT VOCAL PERFORMANCE, W FOR PENELOPE; GIRLBOSS

"108 old faces of men who call me small" EW; 108 IS SO MANY BRO; SO MANY????? Also "old faces" ISJGSEIGJ "who call me small" boy, i feel so bad for you

"They keep taking space and it's not much longer we can stall" !!!! HES WORKING WITH HIS MOTHER TRYING TO HOLD THEM OFF; AH AAAAH, also fuck them, leave their home alone, god he must feel so unsafe in his own home :screams:

"'Cause they're getting impatient, dangerous too" oh no :( so scared lil boy

"And I would fight them if I was half as strong as you" HE LOOKS UP TO HIM SO MUCH AH

"Somebody help me, come and give me the strength Can I do whatever it takes to keep my mom safe?" HES ALSO A MOMMY BOY; AND HONESTLY GOOD FOR HIM; STAND BY HER SIDE; U GO BOY, 🥹

Chrous SLAPs

"Where is he? Where is the man who'll have you to wife? " bitch stay away (also cut song reference!)

"Where is he? Where is the man with whom you'll spend your life?" HE IS ON His WAY HOme SO STAY THE FUCK AWAYYYYYYYY ARGG ILL FIGHT U

"Cause it's been 20 years, 20 years" 20 FUCKING YEARS??? THATS AS OLD AS I AM (and telemachus for that measure, same age, yay!) BUT BRO IMAGINE WAITING FOR YOUR HUSBAND TO COME HOME FOR 20 YEARS; PENELOPE X ODY OTP; PENELOPE FIGHTING OFF 108 SUITORS FOR 20 YEARS AND ODY FIGHTING OF *GODS* Trying TO TRAP AND USE AND KEEP HIM, THEY DESERVE EACH OTHER

"And we still have no king" >:) >:) imagine an island without leader for 20 years oh boy h boy, the power vacuum, 108 people who want to take his place

"Give me a chance, a single opportunity and I'll overcome these obstacles and scrutiny and-" HE WANTS TO SO BADLY he juST DOESNT KNOW HOW AND WHEre TO START BC AH, also the music sounds like he just tries to sneak around his palace, to not get caught by the suitors, dodging and on guard, i can just imagine him ducking his head and looking at every corner for smth danger-

"Boy".......that slapped hard, FUCK YOU ANTINOUS (hi perimedes :) )

"When's your tramp of a mother gonna choose a new husband?" FUCK YOU STAY AWAY (the dELIVERY)

"OoooOOoh" we have a new choir! the crew is ded but we have the suitors now hah, ill take it, love me some choir responses

"Why don't you open her room so we can have fun with her?" THE AUDACITY? WHORE FUCKING BASTARD STAY THE FUCK AWAY

"Dont you dare, call my mother a tramp" U GO BOY; TELL HIM (be careful, dont get hurt) THE VOCAL DELIVERY OF THAT LINE IS SO gOOD

"OoooOOoh" chiorr

" I just did, Whatchu gonna do about it, champ?" FUCK OFF ANTINOUS, DONT BE SO SMUG FUCK U

"Somebody tell me, Come and give me a sign, If I fight this monster, Is it you I'll find?" u desrve your dad so much, he'll come home, promise...promise....hold on, be stronk, u got this boy, also "this monster" its none from your stories, no this is real, its worse its right infront of you AH

Sorry for the swearing :") AH I LOVE THIS SONG SO MUCH, ONE OF MY FAVS FOR SURE (...we'll come back after recency bias but i dont think itll change)

EDIT: DANGER MOTIF WHEN ANTINOUNS JOINS IN!!!!! (are there more? im new to this PLS TELL ME)

@lorethebookworm

[littlyamadeus]

Note: I forgotten to post this on the day saga came but better late than never ig.

So besides Agatha All Along's AMAZING finale, I have another thing to talk about today.

EPIC THE MUSICAL: VENGANCE SAGA

I'll start from what I didn't like as much to my favorite times.

I'm gonna be honest, please don’t come after me for this but- I feel like "Not Sorry for Loving You" was not the best, even unnecessary.

Because no matter what kind of tragic story you have, you captured a man for 7 FUCKING YEARS with the claim of "Loving him". I am not even talking about SA issues akthough they may be not cannon in EPIC universe. Regardless, what Calypso did was pure torture and she does not deserve any sympathy. Especially as someone who loved someone dearly in the past, I know I'd not give the 1 percent of kindness Ody gave to Calypso in the song.

Now that I vent about that one we con go to good part.

HERMESSSSSSSS OUR ICON CAME BACK! Gosh for real Troy proved once again how he is the PERFECT Hermes. I love his voice, love his energy. Dangerous is definitely one of my favorites from this saga.

"Don't thank me my friend/ I am not the one who fight for you" I need Athena ASAP, cryin and sobbin and chokin.

Charybidis, the music was amazing and EPIC becoming even more of a game like musical which as a gamer I am here for it!!!!

GET IN THE WATER'S INTRO IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I HEARD. It is so short yet it immediately puts you in that Final Boss mood. I can listen that part over and over again. That dramatic piano, GOSH-

Steven Rodriguez, he is too good. Like how, the moment I hear his voice I tense in the best way possible. I mean okay I'll get in the water for you🤭 (Said the lesbian). Also when he said "I can't", I once felt the obligations and pressure that Greek Gods are always under. Like he said, he got a reputation and reputation is everything if you don't want people to question your sacredness.

Which thinking about it, it also remind me the time when Hades couldn't immediately release Eurydive because he'd become a "Spineless king".

Six Hundred Strike.... All I can say is "Next to my wife."

[epicthemusical]

Hi I am very new to the Epic fandom and I'm curious to know what all the big ships are (if there are any. Tbh I've had enough of shipping wars for a while), or if there's anything else I need to know for interacting in the fandom space

okay phew this is gonna be a lot and i have enlisted my EPIC friends to make this is accurate i can. first off nicknames we use a lot. Eurylochus us Eury, Odysseus is Ody, Perimedes is often called Peri of course Penelope is often called Pen. you might see mention of Diomedes which is based more in the original Illiad which we call Dio. hmm think thats about all now onto ships

odypen (Odysseus x Penelope) ofc self explanatory applies to both EPIC and original sources

eurymene (Eurylochus x Ctimene) they are not mentioned in EPIC but yeah Ctimene is also Ody sister making Eury and Ody brothers in law

diodypen (Diomedes x Odysseus x Penelope) based more on the original source of The Odyssey/Illiad but will be mentioned in EPIC communities

odydio (Odysseus x Diomedes) again based more on original source but could be mentioned

telestratus (Telemachus x Peseistratus) again based on original source but will be mentioned at times

odypoli (Odysseus x Polites) EPIC based one of my personal favorites and a pretty popular ship not much else to say Perenor, Perinorpoli, Peripoli, ect (Perimedes x Elpenor, Perimedes x Elpenor x Polites, Perimedes x Polites) basically any combination of these three is a ship. this is caused by some cut song snippets Jorge has shared specifically Cope with That and a mention that originally Polites x Perimedes were supposed to be a thing

antimachus (Telemachus x Antinous) This is a toxic ship when it comes to EPIC cannon

Another big fandom thing that isnt really everybody cup of tea is something called the Manwore AU started by Anniflamma a big animator/artist within EPIC were basically Ody sleeps with everyone as a way to make it through his journey. I will mention that Ody does NOT cheat on Penelope in either EPIC or the original sources.

Polites Eury and Ody are childhood friends

people will often mention pancakes and Polites together that is from the Cyclops saga.

One of the problems in the fandom is a lot of people bashing Eury for his actions i personally dont like bashing characters since i believe every character made mistakes and messed up so no one character deserves to be blamed but you can form your own opinions on this.

Fans of EPIC are called winions which is short for wind minions shown in the Ocean Saga and is often related to the Lotus eater creatures

Big artists/animators for EPIC include Gigi, Aniflamma, Mircsy (prounounced merchy), Gwendy, Wolfythewitch, and a newer one called Neal

Playlist of EPIC animatics/animations in order (Vengeance saga is the livestream since its so new and not all the songs have animations yet)

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGNbMhyzUajd-DZadE_QzvBwpYr2J8_J2&si=nXBZSJQPXBnW-DnF

overall this community is actually one of the better to exist and for the most part except for a minority everyone is open and supportive so feel free to share your thoughts and creations. We have a ton of very creative and talented people and we welcome you to the EPIC community UwU

[gallifreyianrosearkytiorsusan]

Rumor Has It

Author's note: More of Imhoden in Husbandry

Summary: Imhoden sulks at Janus for an unfair punishment he got when he squabbled with some renegade Space Wolves.

Warning: None? Let me know if I need to add anything. 

Past =-= Next

Tagged: @barn-anon, @bleedingichorhearts, @c-u-c-koo-4-40k, @egrets-not-regrets, @kit-williams,

Tagged: @sleepyfan-blog, @ms--lobotomy , @thevoidscreams, @i-am-a-dragon34, @gra93fruit-blog

One of the things that Imohoden had been warned about - was Chaos, with a capital C, at least on Ancient Terra. Slowly he’d been told about the Fall of the Legions, at least half of them. How the fighting had spread to becoming a full fledged civil war.

It had been surprising, yet not entirely so- that things had exploded so spectacularly, especially with hindsight-and with what his brothers, those who had survived The Deal and The Dusting (whatever the fuck that is) how things had been driven to that path.

Some of his brothers encouraged him to Join Chaos, others informed him that it was better to not doom and damn himself with such a thing. The Bonds- and how they affected things is terribly fascinating and he’s on one of the many research teams, as well as being Bonded himself, it helps with assessing how things are going and what, carefully, gently, the limits of certain kinds of Bonds are.

Imhoden is working on some paperwork, which ugh, is so fucking boring, yet is also incredibly important. He’d rather be researching and writing about interesting things. Not this sort of petty grox-shite.

He doesn’t realize how fierce his scowl is until he hears a familiar- yet not voice call out to him. “Oh dear- someone’s sour. What’s wrong Odie?”

Imhoden turns to look over and up at Janus, the sharp and angry features on his face lightening and brightening up when he recognizes Janus. His brother has changed- so Much, has lived so long, but there are still some recognizable parts of his brother’s soul and magic that makes it easier for him to recognize him.

His brother has been heavily twisted and mutated by the Chaos Deity of Change, trickery, and schemes. Janus is very bird-like in his movements and habits, as well as in looks. He’s got a flexible (disturbingly) flexible beak and has some feathers that twirl in dizzying patterns along his armor.

“I’m being punished with menial paperwork,” Imhoden complains dramatically.

“Why do you say that brother?” Janus asks, tilting his head, and with a teasing chuckle that sounds like a bird song, “And what did you do to deserve punishment.”

“Those fucking barbarian wolves deserved it,” Imhoden spat out, angrily, “Those fucking Space Wolf renegades were howling and jabbering about. Demanding help with one of their Number suddenly getting a bonded, but they didn’t know if it was one of three humans they semi-kidnapped.”

“Space wolves are barbarian bastards, yes,” Janus agrees with a whistle his hands, which have bird-like talons flex.

“I was, unfortunately,” Imhoden says unhappily, “The poor Psyker within grabbing range to assess them.”

“And?” Janus prompted gamely.

“The fuckers too offense to the fact that I’m a Son of Magnus,” Imhoden said, “And we got into a bit of a fight- the fuckers had me out numbered.”

“That’s unfortunate.” Janus says sympathetically as he eyes his brother for injuries- Space wolves could fight very dirty at times.

“The fight was stopped by Apothecary Hura,” Imhoden says with a grimace and a shudder. He’d met that particularly… twisted Chaos Space Marine before.

“Ah- and as punishment he sent you to do paperwork,” Janus says with a nod, “yes- Apothecary Hura is… Intimidating, and clever.”

“It was that or apologize to the Space Wolves,” Imhoden says, “And I was not going to apologize to those fuckers.”

“Hura’s great at picking horrible punishments that stick with a person.” Janus says with a grimace, “without going too far, so you can’t complain to the Base Commander for a different sentence. Especially since they could make you do some even worse grox-shit.”

“Yes!” Imhoden says, throwing his hands up in the air as he leans back in the chair.

“At least, it’s not worse.” Janus points out.

“... Yeah.” Imhoden says, “I think they pissed Apothecary Hura or his puppy of a not-apprentice Cedric though.”

“Why do you think that?” Janus asks.

“Hura inflicted a harsher punishment on them than he did for me.” Imhoden says smugly, “Or they are known Trouble Makers who get worse punishments from the get-go. Serves them right, either way.”

[idreamofthemeparks]

The full Tiana's Bayou Adventure video came out today and hoo boy do I have thoughts

Pros:

-gorgeous animatronics, obviously

-TWO Mama Odie animatronics

-banger song

-nice finale

-cute original characters

-the part where you shrink down to frog size was neat

Cons:

-OH GOD IT'S SO EMPTY. Most of the ride feels like Na'Vi River Journey where it has really nice atmosphere but you are allowed one (1) thing to look at at a time, and the rest is just dead space with some ~ambience~. The spotlights shining on each animatronic do not help with that.

-what the hell happened to that storyline about finding the secret ingredient for a recipe? What is this Frozen Ever After-ass "story" about going to a party?

-oh god there are so many more screens than I thought there would be

-Zero buildup or anticipation of the drop. Zero. You don't have to center the whole thing around the drop, but it should be more than an afterthought.

-We couldn't even get one crumb of Dr Facilier? Why didn't HE turn you into a frog?

-banger song plays for exactly 10 seconds. Otherwise, songs from the movie just kinda play at random.

-I like the finale but it's not the showstopper that Splash had. Why didn't they keep the riverboat. There is a riverboat IN THE MOVIE.

-why is Tiana talking like that? So weird and exaggerated? I don't remember her talking like that in the movie

Basically it has some good parts, but good animatronics do not a good ride make. Tiana deserved so much better, she is such a unique princess and they could've done so much with this concept. I WANTED SO BADLY TO LIKE THIS RIDE. I WAS SO EXCITED FOR IT.

[vyunok-obyknovenniy]

Regarding Argos, I have a few thoughts (this is going to be a bit long (^▽⁠ ^;⁠))

First of, here's the quote:

(From Fagles' translation) Book 17 Stranger at the Gates <...> Now, as they talked on, a dog that lay there lifted up his muzzle, pricked his ears … It was Argos, long-enduring Odysseus’ dog he trained as a puppy once, but little joy he got since all too soon he shipped to sacred Troy. In the old days young hunters loved to set him coursing after the wild goats and deer and hares. But now with his master gone he lay there, castaway, on piles of dung from mules and cattle, heaps collecting out before the gates till Odysseus’ serving-men could cart it off to manure the king’s estates. Infested with ticks, half-dead from neglect, here lay the hound, old Argos. But the moment he sensed Odysseus standing by he thumped his tail, nuzzling low, and his ears dropped, though he had no strength to drag himself an inch toward his master. Odysseus glanced to the side and flicked away a tear, hiding it from Eumaeus, diverting his friend in a hasty, offhand way: “Strange, Eumaeus, look, a dog like this, lying here on a dung-hill … what handsome lines! But I can’t say for sure if he had the running speed to match his looks or he was only the sort that gentry spoil at table, show-dogs masters pamper for their points.” You told the stranger, Eumaeus, loyal swineherd, “Here—it’s all too true—here’s the dog of a man who died in foreign parts. But if he had now the form and flair he had in his glory days— as Odysseus left him, sailing off to Troy— you’d be amazed to see such speed, such strength. No quarry he chased in the deepest, darkest woods could ever slip this hound. A champion tracker too! Ah, but he’s run out of luck now, poor fellow … his master’s dead and gone, so far from home, and the heartless women tend him not at all. Slaves, with their lords no longer there to crack the whip, lose all zest to perform their duties well. Zeus, the Old Thunderer, robs a man of half his virtue the day the yoke clamps down around his neck.” With that he entered the well-constructed palace, strode through the halls and joined the proud suitors. But the dark shadow of death closed down on Argos’ eyes the instant he saw Odysseus, twenty years away. <...>

The text seems to imply Argos got abandoned a long time ago (or maybe it's the translation, I'm not sure. I don't know the original text)

My question is: did Tele even know, that this was his father's dog? That Odysseus had a dog and that dog was right there in the palace?

A couple possibilities:

Perhaps early into the 20 years of Odysseus' absence, or, more likely, early into the 10 years Odysseus was lost at sea, the suitors would've used Argos for their hunts? But then the moment Argos starts falling behind due to old age, they would quite literally throw him away...

Or

They could've been mistreating Argos because he was Odysseus' dog? They could've been too proud and arrogant to take him to hunt, even if he's better than all their dogs ;-;

The first version could also explain, why Argos wasn't with Telemachus.

"He's an infant. Such a good hunting dog would be wasted by his side"

And then people kind of forget about Argos, since he's with the suitors most of the time, until he gets abandoned again, but it's not like the suitors would make an announcement about this, so Tele might never even know that Argos exists...

And then, after Ody is back and everything settled down, he brings up Argos. Maybe he decides to bury the dead dog properly, not just let the body lay and rot where he died.

Telemachus could be really surprised, as well as feel guilty about not having known and taken care of Argos. He would also be sad and possibly angry, that he never got to spend time with his dad's dog.

Penelope would feel even more guilty, because Argos was hunting with the suitors and she assumed he was fine, until she just... forgot about him...

Odysseus may be a dog person but Penelope is definitely a cat person.

I know we joke about how Odysseus is a "Wet Cat" as it's correct but he really does "show love" and even behaves like a cat to me.

The whole "I only love two people and they're the only ones who can love me without fear of me biting them." as most cats pick "Their person".

My cats are literally the type to be like "Hi! I love you!" all the while they're walking across my work and knocking most shit over, leaving destruction in their wake. Odysseus literally slaughters a bunch of people and then a whiplash of him crying while being held by his wife.

(I also headcanon him as someone who "demands attention" like a cat. Especially from Penelope. "Ima lay my head in your lap even if you're kind of busy." "Ima grab your hand and start kissing your fingers even if you're holding something.")

Odysseus always wants to claim he's like a dog (Loyal, Brave, etc.) but he's not. Penelope has always loved cats, using some string to play with them sometimes even though I don't think Mycenae Greece had cats until later periods, being brought over from Egypt, it's a headcanon, let me have fun and his "wet cat" vibes are what drew her to him in the first place.

[theexhaustedqueer]

My Very Coherent Thoughts About The Remastered Troy and Cyclops Sagas

(this is a long one)

Firstly, I’d like to say that no matter what these are the versions I’m going to be listening to now, period. Jay and the crew deserve to reap the rewards of their hard work, no question about it. But I do have a LOT of thoughts, some of them might even makes sense. So here they are.

Horse and The Infant feels the most changed to me. Some of it I like, some of it feels weird. It’s definitely going to be an adjustment listening to this version. But just because something is different doesn’t mean it’s bad

Jorge’s vocal performance is a lot gruffer, his voice is lower. It’s interesting, I think it definitely conveys more of that ‘soldier whose been at war for a decade’ energy but it also doesn’t sound as pretty.

The soldiers sound crisper and louder than they did before, which is great, but at least to me it kind of also makes it sound like there are less of them?

I liked the rap in the original better. Idk why, if it’s the vocal delivery, the instrumentation, or what. But this is the one part of the remaster that I can categorically say I like less now. To be clear, it’s still very good. This is just my opinion.

there’s something almost synthetic about the backing vocals in Horse and The Infant. I don’t know enough about audio mixing or music to know what to call it, but both the soldiers and Zeus’s backing vocals sound synthetic. It’s less weird with the gods at least, but my brain cannot stop telling me that human soldiers should not sound like that

LOVE Jorge’s new “Augh!” It sounds so real, especially paired with sword slicing sound effect

Luke Holt sounds SO good, as always. Love how crisp and clean his voice sounds in this version

The “I don’t think you’re ready” gets cut off early and it feels really weird to me

I LOVE the new overlapping singing between Zeus and Odysseus. The change is so subtle but so effective, love how much clearer it is what Zeus is saying

“This is the will of the Gods!” has the intensity behind it that I feel it always should have had. Same goes for “All you can choose is whose.”

I have less thoughts on Just a Man

the vocal performance is just as gorgeous as it was the first time, same goes for the instrumentation. It’s basically no different and that’s how it should be

I will say, when Odysseus starts singing the whole “when does a comet become a meteor,” etc, the instrumentation no longer includes a choir/vocal element. This makes sense given the lore of EPIC, ie, only Gods can summon their own backing vocals, but it takes a little bit away from the intensity of the moment (only at first though)

In a similar vein, it is now obvious that the backing vocals are the soldiers singing and really does a lot to clarify that moment to us as the audience. Unlike in Horse and the Infant as well, the soldiers’ vocals sound fantastic to me here

Time for Full Speed Ahead

the synthetic sound of the soldiers’ vocals is back in the lines “make it back alive to our homeland” and “it’s what lies in between”. Again, it sounds weird to me. Humans don’t sound like that when they sing together

LOVE Armando’s new vocals in this. So crisp. So clean. So clear.

Open Arms

Love that the Winions are easier to understand now.

yeah that basically it, Open Arms is just as fantastic this time around, no notes

Warrior of the Mind time!

Again, it’s almost completely unchanged, so I have very little to say

Jorge’s “hahahaha” is so cute, and I really do like it better than the first one

The emphasis on ‘Enlighten me’ is so funny knowing that it’s apparently something a lot of people misheard

The backing vocals when Ody is hyping up Athena are louder and more obvious this time which is also very funny (selfish and prideful and vain)

Cyclops Saga!!!

Listen, I thought the soundscaping of this saga was unreal the first time around. And this blew that out of the water a thousand times over

the sheep sounds, the arrow flying and hitting it’s target

The crackling of the torches!!!

when the Cyclops appears you can hear it’s heavy breathing, and you can hear it get heavier as he notices his dead friend!!!!! Incredible

On the topic of the Cyclops, the new vocals?!?! Hello?!?! Somehow just as distorted and terrifying while now being clearer and easier to understand?! AH! So impressive

The sound of the entire cavern shaking when Polyphemus stands up! You can hear the rocks crumbling and the dust!!! It’s so good!

the revamped Cyclops roars are SO good

Polites’ body hitting the ground sounds TOO real

I really REALLY like the new ‘Captain’ as Polites dies.

The club smashing the men sounds just as wet and bone crunchy as it did before, which is exactly what I wanted

Polyphemus falling to the ground has so much more weight behind it now. You really feel it just from the sound it makes.

Eurylochus’ voice fading in sounds so good

I love how the combination of the change of instrumentation and sudden lack of sound effects except for the clock ticking and distortion when Athena pulls Ody into quick thought really makes it feel like a different dimension

Ody’s “No.” is SO GOOD

Athena sounds PANICKED when she says “DON’T” in this version. I like this direction of her character being more concerned for Odysseus and not just angry, I feel like it gives her more depth and lends credence to her actions later in the story

Jorge’s shout of “Odysseus!” sounds so angry and almost deranged

Athena’s little growl on ‘waste’ is so good I love it

Athena sounds like the she’s genuinely hurt after Ody tells her she’s alone. It actually really hits

the “Just a Man” in My Goodbye is so punchy and that’s all. Overall I really love most of the changes and everything else is just something that’ll take some adjusting to. I’m so glad Jorge and every talented individual who worked on these gets to finally reap the rewards of their master pieces.

[ishuess]

My thoughts on the ODI Squad even though no one asked. Do I look like I care? Nah

Rohit Captaining again..it's fine. I don't have a problem even though I want youngsters to take over. But this is not bad. We have got experience here.

Gill as Vice Captain. Not a hater but we do have Rahul and Kohli in squad. And well I think Gill is an exceptional player but doesn't feels threat to his position that much which will harm later. But I am proud and happy that my baby got this big responsibility. Best of luckkk!!

Kohli is GREATT. He deserves every bit of his position and more. I am excited for his innings cuz afterall he has the "saving team's ass in clutch moments" quota.

Rahul and Pant. I said it once and I'll say it again. Where's the rule for playing domestic and practicing. Go around the world then walking in team. I AM HAPPY THAT PANT MADE A COMEBACK AND BOUNCED BACK but honestly can u please prove urself in domestic first babbyy. I am even fine with Rahul.

Iyer. We saw it coming from a mile away when the coach changed and honestly he deserves it so badly. He's an awesome player and always has been.

I see no Bumrah and Hardik in the bowling line up and we're playing against Sri Lanka known for its bowling calibre. Bhagwaan hi bachaaye clutch overs mein hume although I trust Kullu and Siraj too.

Axar, Arshdeep, Rana Ji and Khaleel. Not bad actually a good choice and best choice( first 2)

Let's acknowledge the elephant in the room. Riyan Parag. I don't know what Gambhir was thinking cuz I saw Rutu in the same series as him performing better.

Gautam Gambhir as Head Coach let's see what magic he does .

[magicalmyths]

just remember you asked for this-

“Choose…you, or your crew.” Odysseus feels his knees hit the deck in horror. He can't choose he can't- “Please don't make me do this!” He is begging on his knees just like he did so long ago in the city of Troy. a baby smashed against the bloody ground Begging for mercy he knows will not come. He feels warm arms wrap around him and he sobs. “Polites, I'm so sorry.” Odysseus is selfish, so very selfish, clinging desperately to his friend for what would be the last time. He feels tears splash on his neck “Its okay Ody i understand. No matter your choice, I will not hate you.” They both already knew what he would choose. Oh gods what did he do to deserve such a friend. Polites deserved so much better than a broken and selfish man like him. Odysseus stands up slowly turning to face the cruel God and gives his answer “I..I choose them” Tears fall like waterfalls and he forces himself to look at his crew. Polites had a sad smile on while the rest of the crew looked to have given up. “I'm sorry…” He watched as the thunder shattered the ship and killed the crew instantly. As he feels himself sinking he feels a void inside him pulsing with pain of the choice he had just made.He gladly welcomes the darkness when it finally comes.

*Sobs loudly*

[lemurious]

Well. Megalopolis was a LOT, and I would say that it still wasn't audacious enough to truly succeed, and certainly not dark enough. (Spoilers).

Mega-camp for sure. Loved all the random cheesy campy late Roman Republic details (was that Catullus stopping by with his Odi et amo" in the very beginning?; the citizen-rings; Cicero declaring the First Catilinarian, everything Clodius Pulcher and his Claudia sisters, Catilina talking about abolishing debts, etc).

"Would you destroy this world to create a better one" felt taken straight out of Terra Ignota, which is high praise in my book. BUT. Where is the conflict? Where is the war? (Late Roman Republic was always at war!) What happens to the masses of the poor, at the Megalopolis utopia at the end?! The whole point of Catilina is that he dies fighting to the last, and so does his ragtag army, at a hopeless, doomed, glorious last stand; I will love Sallust forever for writing this and breaking my heart and that was enough to learn Latin for - but why is that not in the movie?! Instead we get an incredibly unconvincing love story with a tacky happy ending. Would you destroy this movie to create a better one? And how does one get the High Drama Catilina book or movie that he so very much deserves?!